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Dumville website still going strong. A lot of interest still being generated although there are only half the number in this country(Great Britain)than ten years ago.Descendants of Robert are few though there are many in America.Birth remains a mystery.Couldn't be a son of William and Hannah(Chelford)-she died before his birth(1749).Where did he learn molecatching?
MOLECATCHERS AND MOLECATCHING:
A law was passed in 1537 making it compulsory for each parish to appoint an officer to control vermin-including rats,mice,weasels,stoats,polecats,rabbits,badgers and of course moles.This was the beginnings of the village molecatcher;although there are very few records of any kind-churchwardens accounts may refer to payments made for moles but molectchers are very rarely named.Towards the 19th.Century molecatchers are more often found in estate records;individual farms very rarely keep records of this type.It was quite a good if arduous living;wages were as much as twice that of the average agricultural worker.Ways of appointing molecatchers varied-in some areas all the locals met in the pub and the molecatcher agreed upon by a consensus of opinion.The appointment might be for as long as 21 years;showing how much faith they had in this member of the community.
The actual methods of catching moles are quite simple but the budding molecatcher had to learn his job the hard way-by practical experience.The metal trap with jaws that closed in;the box trap with a trapdoor that closed when the mole entered and various homemade versions such as traps with a noose sprung by a pliant willow stem.The moles were sometimes skinned and the pelts sold to the furrier or nailed to a convenient tree or fence post.Molecatchers often had an insurance in other kind of agricultural jobs-such as a smallholding or casual farm work,in case molecatching was slack.
Molecatching never really recovered after the 1st.World War and more modern methods were beginning to supersede the older ones;such as strychnine,gassing and the use of bone oil.Country houses still often have a molecatcher and there are one or two individuals still soldiering on.
Until fairly recently moles haven't been much studied but there is a good exposition in the
the New Naturalist series;not now in print but available from libraries.Moles have a rather unique life history-not much like any other animal.Two real life molecatchers who did bother to write down their reminiscenses were Arthur Randell-"A Fenland Molecatcher" and Arthur "Pop" Bowles-his memoirs;both of the Norfolk/Suffolk Fenlands.
WATCH AND CLOCKMAKERS:
There were 10 Dumville watch and clockmakers-nearly all in the 19th.Century.One family came from Chelford-there is a clock at Chelford Church(John Dumville-1775).A short,sloping alleyway in Warrington is called Dumville's Brow after Nathaniel,a clock and watchmaker,who worked in the street below.In Cambridge,another John Dumville had a shop near the city centre and maintained a business for 50 years.One of Nathaniel's watches is at Warrington Museum;but the date is not exactly known.The John of Chelford,I mentioned also made grandfather clocks and pictures of these are known.There was also a watchmaker at St.Ives,in Cambridgeshire.Little is known of the lives of these clockmakers;although I have the wills of John and Nathaniel-which are quite revealing.John had all the equipment to be self sufficient in the business.Nathaniel was quite wealthy and had property and investments as well.There is a reconstructed watch and clockmaker's workshop at Newark,in Nottinghamshire.Engines were used to cut the cogwheels and lathes to shape the parts.Toolmakers-as the name implies,made the tools for watch and clockmakers.The wheels have various names-castle wheel and crown wheel-for example.A power source-a spring,a rotating balance wheel or a pendulum is connected to a train of gears via an escapement(a kind of rocking device which moves the wheels on in small steps).A device called a fusee compensated for the reduction of power as the spring uncoiled.There were also ingeniuous methods to compensate for temperature changes.Most of these clocks and watches are in museums-though a few are in private hands.Clock and watchmakers often repaired these items.I have a couple of paper stickers(150 years old)that Nathaniel put on watches after repair;advertising the business.There are still watch and clock repairers but nobody makes clocks and watches in this way,now.My father had a large pocket watch-belonging to his grandfather,where the wheels were actually driven by small chains.
DUMVILLES OF DISTINCTION OR IMPORTANCE:
Arthur William Dumville-early 19th,Century surgeon and lecturer on the subject at Manchester(Ardwick's)
Hubert Hudson Dumville.Cockney born head of the Information Bureau of Rowntree's,York.Descendants still at York.Was also a Methodist preacher and wrote many letters to the Dalesman magazine;mostly about religion-but some quite humourous or informative.
David Norman Dumville(present day)-Professor of Cultural History and Paleography at Girton College,Cambridge.He is a descendant of Robert's grandson-George(born at Ellingstring).His ancestors came to Darlington and Hartlepool;and had literary connections.He,himself,has published many books on Medieval History.He was-at one time, head of the Department of Anglo-Saxon,Celtic and Norse Studies.He travels to North America and has a liking for politics and "other arguments"!!!He is also interested in the history of Ireland(which has a very long cultural history);Fellow of the Royal Society of Antiquaries of Ireland-F.R.S.A.I.
Capt.William George(Bill)Dumville
Served in the Green Howards during the 2nd.World War.Was awarded the Military Cross for his actions on the 21/22 May 1940.He once came to Scarborough with the Green Howards.He lives with his daughter-Moira.
Thomas Churchman Dumville.Was a hatter at Campton,Beds.Son-James baptised Dec.31 1766 at Campton(family from Shefford)
Benjamin Dumville-married Alice Moxham at Olney ,both of the parish;by licence at Simpson,on 14th.Oct 1802.Was a draper.Lived at Fenny Stratford and Simpson.
Peter Chadband Dumville-b.1823,Knutsford.Married Harriett Viggor at St.Chad's,Knutsford.Was a saddler and innkeeper.
Arthur Hill Dumville-from Fiddown,Kilkenny,Ireland.Clerk in Holy orders.Married Mary Margaret Edwardina Cookman(daughter of Edward Roger Cookman-a gentleman(Bucks)at St.Peter's Church,Bedford.His father was a solicitor at Malpas;married to Mary Hill.
Miss Emma Dumville-postmistress at Monksheath,Cheshire;1874.
Joseph Gooding Dumville-born 20 June 1846'in Suffolk;his father was a furrier.
Thomas Bond Dumville.King Street,Knutsford;1829.Attorney.
Nathaniel Dumville,senior-watchmaker owned a farm at Snelson(near Chelford)-1821;Astle Deeds.
LIST OF DUMVILLE CLOCK AND WATCHMAKERS:
Mid.18th.Cen.John Dumville-Chelford;clockmaker
End.18th.Cen.John Dumville-Nether Alderley;clockmaker
1828-39(known to be working)Nathaniel Dumville-Wilmslow;clock and watchmaker
1816-41 Nathaniel Dumville-Stockport;clock and watchmaker
1836-57 Nathaniel Dumville-Hulme;clockmaker
1857 John Dumville-Hulme;clockmaker
1798-99 John Dumville-Olney;watchmaker
1830-81 John Dumville-Cambridge;clock and watchmaker
1839-64 James Dumville-St.Ives;clock and watchmaker
1830 John Dumville-St.Ives;clock and watchmaker
IN AMERICA:
John P.Dumville-Historic Site Operations Chief;Mount Independence,Vermont.I believe a decisive battle of the American civil war was fought here.He is also a local historian.
Robert Dumville Windes Jr.Confederate soldier from Holmesville.Wrote poems,late in life, about the Civil war,carpetbaggers,the reconstruction era
and the loss of good friends in the conflict.
RECORDS OF THE WORLD WARS:
Sergeant A.G.Dumville.Died aged 25(1941). Royal Canadian Air Force.
Corporal C.E.Dumville.Died aged 23(1944).Royal Electrical and Mechanical Engineers.
Second Lieutenant E.Dumville(1918).Died aged 26.Royal Air Force.
Private F.Dumville(my father's uncle Fred;buried in the N.W.part of Well Cemetery,North Yorkshire;
close to my greatgrandfather's grave-James;Fred's father.He was 21;he died from wounds four months after the war(1919)and was buried with full military honours at St.Michael's,well.
Flying Officer G.Dumville,Died age 21(1944).Royal Canadian Air Force.
Private J.R.Dumville.Died aged ??(1918).Queens Own Royal West Kent Regiment
J.S.Dumville(driver)Died aged 22(1920).Royal Army Service Corps.
RECORDS BY COURTESY OF THE COMMONWEALTH WAR GRAVES COMMISSION
PLACES ASSOCIATED WITH MY ANCESTORS:
ELLINGSTRING-Tiny village on rising ground near Masham Moor.Mary Ann was brought up there and Henry and James(her first two children,born there)
Mary Ann's father-Thomas was a molecatcher(I don't know where exactly)and I don't know where Mary Ann worked or lived or lived or who the father of her four children was(all registered as illegitimate)Ellingstring has a very small stone built school and an even smaller(at one time) Methodist Chapel.The jobs given in the 1851 census are the usual types found in villages-agricultural labourers,grocers,blacksmiths etc.with two unusual jobs-a beehive maker and a horse breaker.The two main farms in the area lie to the north-west and east;Hill Top Farm and Haregill Lodge.Haregill Lodge is a very large farm now run by Mrs.R.Greensit as a B and B establishment.The Greensits also had farms near Healey and Bedale.There is a coincidence that a Mary Jane Greensit was a witness to my great grandfather's marriage-so he he might have had some connection with this family(he was living at Healey immediately before his marriage)The villages of Healey and Fearby(where Henry and James were brought uo )lie just to the south-east.
HEALEY AND FEARBY:
I have already mentioned these.My great grandfather may have been baptised in the Parsh Church at Healey-St.Paul's,which had just been completed from local stone(1848).His grandfather next moved to Fearby with his fanily;including his two grandchildren-Henry and James.It is almost certain they must have attended the school at Kell Bank-midway between Healey and Fearby
Thomas was at various times a labourer and a farmer as well as a molecatcher.He died at Fearby and is buried at Healey.His grandson-James,however,moved on.Although working at Healey he managed to meet Elizabeth Haw of Snape.She was the daughter of Thomas Haw a farming family.They were married at Well and James went on to become a gardener.
SNAPE:
Village with historical associations.Catherine Parr lived there as the wife of Sir John Neville-at Snape Castle.THe old castle is now in disrepair;divided into 2 halves;one half of it went up for sale recently.The Ropners own both Thorp Perrow and Snape Castle.There is a tradition that King Henry VIII once visited Snape Castle to court Catherine.There is a small hill,now called King's Keld,where he reputedly fell from his carriage.The life of Catherine Parr is described in the book by Antonia Fraser-"The six wives of Henry VIII"-in the kind of meticulous detail that only a woman could have written.Another book which reveals little known facts about her life is "Katherine Parr"-our Northern Queen,by Keith Snowden;Castleden Publications,Pickering.I haven't been able to find out much about her 11 year stay at Snape;apart from the fact that on one occasion she had the floor cleaned from rushes and decaying material.In his will Lord Latimer left her one third of his goods,some plate,a Manor in Northants,and 100 Marks(Mark-worth 13s.4d);the qualifier is interesting-"whether she ought to have them or not"It appears that she intended to marry Thomas Seymour;but she did in fact marry Henry VIII only four months after the proving of Lord Latimer's will.The words of the marriage ceremony go:I,Henry take thee,Katherine to my wedded wife,to have and to hold from this day forward,for better,for worse,for richer,for poorer,in sickness and in health till death us depart and thereto I plight thee my troth.
Katherine said:I.katherine take thee,Henry,to my wedded husband,to have and to hold from this day forward,for better,for worse,for richer for poorer.in sickness and in health.to be bonair and buxome in bed and at board,till death us depart;and thereto I plight thee my troth.
The ceremony was performed in the Queen's Privy Closet,Hampton Court on the 12 July,1543.The King's daughters-Mary and Elizabeth were there and Anne Herbert,Katherine Parr's sister,amongst about thirty other witnesses.
Snape Castle is not open to the public but visitors have access to the small Church of England Chapel;originally private-where the Neville and Latimer marriages took place.James Henry,George and Fred Dumville are recorded on the wall of the chapel;Fred as one of the fallen.
Thorp Perrow is an arboretum with a fine collection of trees and shrubs and displays of daffodils in the spring;with many other delights for the visitor.It is reached from the road in the north to Snape,a minor B road;difficult to find-the sign is high up on a wall at Bedale.My great grandfather worked for this estate;I have a picture of him with a group of gardeners in front of the greenhouse.
Snape,itself,is a small village centred around a long,narrow village green.This type of green developed around an ancient,rough track;whilst the circular type often occurred around an animal fold or pound where animals were herded for safety.The village has a very old pub-around the 14th.Century-called the Castle Arms.
There are old collections of thimbles,deer antlers
and frying pans.Theakston's brew is served.There is not much else of note at Snape.My father and I noticed an Ingleson's Cottage when we visited Snape-he was friends with Marjorie Ingleson at York.I wrote a letter to her(Marjorie Dale)and she did remember nearly all of James Dumville's family.
James Dumville's house-called Yew Tree house,is still there.I believe the present owners are fish merchants.The front garden is bare unlike in my great grandfather's time when it was a mass of flowers.
MASHAM;
I don't think any of my ancestors lived there;but Thomas Dumville was married to Mary Horseman at St.Mary,s Church,in 1832.The church stands at one end of a very large square which was used for sheep fairs;I believe there has been an attempt to revive them.Lamb Hill is a farm near Masham where Robert's son- Robert(by his first wife)worked.Famous for its "Old Peculier";brewed by Theakston's.
HUNTON;
Is where it all started;Robert started molecatching and renting a field to the north of the village called Chapel Garth.He had met his wife at Bramper farm-the daughter of his employer;they were married at St.Helens,Ainderby Steeple,by licence;probably because she was already expecting a child.Robert died at 95,surrounded by his family-the grand old molecatcher of Yorkshire.
I may publish parts of my book on this site.Some of the information,I have included already.
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Upcoming Events
Anyone interested.E-mail:tonydumville@aol.com
or jillandmiles@dumville.org
Are there any descendants of Dumville clock and watchmakers?Are there any descendants of Percy and Amelia Jane Stone(Aunt Minnie)of Stapleton Farm-on(Yorkshire/Durham border).Some degree of puzzlement over the Dumville name-probably a habitation name from the region around Lisieux in Calvados,Normandy.Hugh de Donville known in 1030,1087-the latter probably a land assessment after the death of William the Conqueror.First written record is in 1274,concerning a charter of Hugh de Donville confirmed by Sir Roger de Domville regarding provision of a house and garden for the Abbott of Birkenhead.
I may publish parts of my book on this site.Some of this information is from the book.
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LONGEVITY AT SCARBOROUGH
Scarborough is noted for many of its people living to a ripe old age.Recently,Catherine Bogg-born in the Old Town;but living at Pershore(Worcs)died at the age of 106.
THE POTTER FAMILY OF YORK
My father's mother-Eva Eliza Potter was born in Townend Street-the daughter of Samuel Potter,a worker on the sugared almonds section at Cravens.
Her brother William worked at Rowntrees.Evelyn was an acomplished pianist.Fred was a foreman at Rowntree's.Samuel Potter's brother-William was an organ builder and his son Leonard-a furniture broker,painter and cab proprietor.Leonard's son was James Frederick Potter,a garage clerk-who came to live at Scarborough.William's daughter,Marjorie,was a seamstress. Fred's son was an accountant. FIDDY RESEARCH My gardener-Mick Fiddy asked me to research his ancestors.They came from Ireland but his name is Scottish.They came as settlers to Belmullet-in County Mayo setting up an oyster fishery and eel fishing in Lough Conn.
LETTER TO THE DALESMAN FROM HUBERT DUMVILLE:
Sangster's Scarborough-
I was much interested in a letter(March Dalesman)under the heading "Sangster's Home"The Minutes of the Methodist Conference ,for the year 1932,state that the Rev.W.Edwin Sangster came to live at 21,Londesborough Road as the Minister of Queen Street.He stayed ar Scarborough for four years.
When I was on holiday at Scarborough in 1934,went to hear this great preacher.I used to get to the Queen Street Hall half an hour before to be sure of getting in.I had the privilege of knowing him personally and can testify to the fact that that he was one of the greatest of preachers and,above all,a veritable saint.
Dr.Sangster-as he was then,President of the Methodist Church in 1950 and was subsequently made head of the Home Missions Department.he contracted a rare form of Muscular Atrophy 1957 and died in 1960,when he was scarcely 60 years of age.Dr.Sangster died by inches over a long period;but his sainthood was nobly manifested and he never complained.
A biography written by his only son-Paul Sangster,is still in print,and I would recommend any who had the joy of hearing this truly great man-to read it.Most public libraries have it on their shelves.
HUBERT DUMVILLE
Acomb York
I have been to the Queen Street Hall for the Carol Concert,on Boxing Day.I always remember that stirring hymn-The Battle Hymn of the Republic.I used to go to the Max Jaffa concerts at the Spa.You seemed to be transferred into a world of the past-listening to the sound of the violin-a world of palm courts and genteel tea parties;with a warm breeze coming in from the sea.
DESTINY CALLS-THE STORY OF THE DUMVILLES FROM THE TIME OF WILLIAM I TO THE PRESENT DAY.
LORDS OF THE MANOR:
Hugh de Donville settled in this country;having set out from the Department of Manche,to the west of Normandy,France.The Department of Normandy,itself-is now known as Basse-Normandy.His name is derived from a place called Donville-which probably does not now exist.Lisieux was a noted religious centre-akin to Lourdes and is famous for the Cathedral of St.Therese.He was created Lord of Oxton which lies in the southern part of the Wirral;that exaggerated tongue of land which lies between the enlarged estuaries of the Dee and Mersey.
In all probability he arrived sometime after the Norman Conquest.On one version of the Battle Abbey Roll,published by Guillaume le Tailleur in 1487-a certain Le Sire Donuiller is mentioned.This may well be synonymous with Hugh de Donville.The fact that it is on one version only of the Battle Abbey Roll,lends support to the theory that it was added to the original of the Roll by the monks of the Abbey.This was done to "prove" descent from a Norman who was actually at the Battle of Hastings.Hugh de Donville may have had a Norman name and indeed may have been Norman;but was probably not at the famous battle.
MY OWN 29 GENERATION FAMILY TREE:
1.Hugh de Donville(from Avranches)Living 1030,1087.
Roger.He married Weiberga de Bride(dau.of Hugh de Bride)
2.WAlter de Domvile.Living 1100.
3.Hugh de Domvile.Living 1160.
4.Adam de Domvile.(de Dumville 1182).He married Agatha de Brimstage(dau.of Andrew de Brimstage;heiress of Brimstage Hall)
5.William de Domvile.Living 1216.
John.Living 1216.
Richard.
6.Sir Robert de Domvile(knight)Living 1216,1245.
7.Sir Roger de Domvile(knight)He married(1.Margaret Venables-dau.of Sir Roger Venables,Baron of Kinderton.Bur.1282.He married(2.Isabel.living 1289)
Margery.She married(1.Henry de Torbock-son of Henry de Torbock)and(2.Hugh de holes(Hulse).a coat of Arms was granted to Thomas de Hulse by John Domvile.
Peter.
8.Roger Domvile.Alive 1313.
9.John Domvile.Alive 1324.1365.He married(1.Matilda de Brereton.dau.of Sir William Brereton of Brereton.)He married (2.Matilda de Mobberley)
10.Robert Domvile.Alive.1333.1342.He married Agnes de Legh(dau.of Alan de Limme,heiress of Lymm Hall.
Thomas.
Mathew.He married Agnes Wettenhall(dau.of Ralph de Wettenhall and Ellen de Bulkylegh)
Children of Matilda de Mobberley:
Philip Dunfoul(in Chester records)He married Cristian.One son-John Dunfoul(in Chester records)
John de Dunfoul.Alive 1404.He married Cicely de Mobberley(Chester records).Had three children-John,Isabella and Margery.
11.Gilbert Domvile.Born 1350.
John.Fought against Owen Glendower.Was given a pension.
12.John Domvile.Alive.1350.1400.He married Margaret Savage-dau.of Sir John Savage. Thomas.He married dau.of Sir Thomas Massey.
13.John Domvile.Alive.1400,1487.In Battle of Agincourt-1415.He married Joan Massey of Rixton.
14.John Domvile.Alive 1425,1450.He married Elizabeth Radcliffe.
Elizabeth.She married William Ward.
15 James Domvile.Born 1511.He married Elizabeth Keighly.
16.Peter Domvile.
Elizabeth.
17.Gilbert Domvile.He married(1.Ann Blundell)and(2.Margaret Sneyde-from whom the line continues)
He died 1607.
Elizabeth.
Isabel
John Domvile.L.L.M.
George
James.he married Jane Fylkin,1586.
Peter
William.Died 1624.
18.Edward Domvile(chief Serjeant at Law)Born 1584.He married Eleanor Leicester(Leycester)-dau.of Laurence Leicester.Edward died 1639(Will)
William(Sheriff of Chester-1709)He married Mary Kennion.Will 1648.Middleton.
Alice.She married Thomas Cartwright.
Margaret.
Susan.She married George de Legh of Barton.
19.Richard Maria Domvile.Born 1600.He married Jane Meakin(dau.of John Meakin)Mar 2 1673.Richard died 1667(Will 1664)
Randle Domvile.Merton College.Draper.
John Domvile.
Gilbert Domvile.Skinner.Chester.Born 1613.Died
Aug 12 1667.Bur.Aug 13.1667.
William Domvile.Chaplain.Bur.Sep 28 1618
Edward Domvile
Peter Domvile
Townsend.She married Humphrey Kelsall,in
Cheadle Heath.
Elizabeth.She married(1.John Cooke)-(2.Thomas Gerrard) 26 Nov 1640,Riddings.
Margaret.She married(1.Richard Hatton Rector of Lymm.)-(2.Bankes)
Eleanor.She married Charles Joanes Vicar of Bowden,,married 16 Apr 1646.
Katherine.She married John Lambert.
Susan.
Mary
Sarah
Susan.Living 1664.Admn.1669.
Anne.She married Richard Warburton.,married
June 10 1649
Martha Born Jan 1623
James Born 1624.Lymm Manor.Died 1673 in
Higher House Lymm.
20.Peter Domvile.Born 1641 in Higher House Lymm.
Died 1704.
Robert.Born.1648.
James.Born 1660.
John.Born 1667.
3 Daus.
21.James Domvile(son of Robert)Born 1673.Higher House Lymm.He
married Alice Taylor in 1711 at St.Elphin's
Warrington.Died 1763.
22.Thomas.Born 1 June 1712.He married Ann.Dau.Jane,born 1735.
William.Born 16 Apr 1718.He married Hannah Baskerville(Born 1719 in Chelford-dau.of John Baskerville of Astle;she died 1 Oct 1747.William died at Chelford.Bur.21 Feb 1779.
James.Born 8 May 1720.He married Ann.5 daughters.
Jane.Born 10 Aug 1722.
John.Born 12 Jan 1729.He married Margaret.Dau.Elizabeth,born 1752.
23.William.Born 23 Mar
1745 in Chelford.Had an illegitimate child by Heather Stonier(Charles Dumville-born 1764 Withington)
John(farmer)Born 26 Jul 1747 in Chelford.He married Ann.She was born 1746.Died 5 Nov 1783.(4 children-William,Hannah,Nathaniel and Mary.(SEE SUBSIDIARY LINE C)
Nathaniel(farmer),born 17 Jan 1749 in Chelford.He married Mary Wood,26 Mar 1773.
Isaac.Born 4 Aug 1750.Marr.Jane-son Isaac,born 1776 marr.Elizabeth-children James,Jane,Martha and Peter(all buried at St.George's Hulme)
Ellen.Born 1752 in Chelford.
Mary.Born 1754 in Chelford.
Martha(illeg.son-John,started S.Africa line;father Jack Frost)
Robert???(illeg.???)Molecatcher.Born 1762.
He married(1.Margery Smothwaite 26 May 1789 by licence at Ainderby Steeple.She was born 1767 in Bramper Farm(dau.of Thomas Smothwaite-farmer)He married(2.Elizabeth Johnson,18 May 1818 in Sy.Patrick's Patrick Brompton.)She was born 1782 in Marrick.Died Aug 1870 Bedale.Robert died 2 Feb.1857 Hunton.Buried 5 Feb.
24.Anne Born 22 Dec 1794 Hunton.Died Mar 1869??
Robert.Born 16 Dec 1796 Hunton.He married Ann Wilkinson,14 May 1821 Ripon Cathedral;born 1792 in North Lees Ripon.Died 3 Mar 1869.Thornton Steward.Robert died 24 Feb 1887 in Todmorden.
George.Born 15 Sep 1798 Hunton(labourer).He married (1.Mary Born 1802 in Moulton.Buried 22 June 1853 in Patrick Brompton.He married(2.Mary Terry-scholteacher in Patrick Brompton,she was born 1810 in Hunton.George died 21 May 1871 in Hunton.
Sarah.Born 18 April 1801.Hunton.Bur.16 Mar.1818.
Mary.Born 28 June 1803.Died ???
Thomas(molecatcher)Born 1806.He married Mary Horseman 30 Apr 1832 in St.Mary's Masham(daughter of Henry Horseman and Mary Stockdale)Thomas died June 1893 Fearby.Buried at St.Paul's Healey.
25.Mary Ann Born 1833.Married John Francis Foxton(bricklayer's labourer)at Ripon Cathedral 1864.She died in 1911.
George(labourer)Born in Ellingstring.He married Maria Clemmitt 18 June 1864 in Marske.
Robert(whitesmith)Born 1838 in Ellingstring.He married Elizabeth Firby(charwoman)9 Mar 1861 Bradford Parish Church.Robert died Sep 1875 Bradford.
Isabella.Born 1842 Ellingstring
Thomas.Born 25 Sep 1843. Ellingstring.He married Sarah Elizabeth Tongue.1871.After marriage used the name-Dunville.Thomas died 27 Oct 1925 in St.Louis Missouri.
John(labourer)Born in Fearby
John Born 1843 Ellingstring.She married John Metcalfe(master blacksmith)Born 1844 in Masham.Died 6 Mar 1874 in Hornby.Elizabeth died 30 Apr 1880 in Hackforth;buried May 1880 in Hornby.
26.Henry(hotel servant)Born 25 Jan 1853 Ellingstring(father unknown)He married Alice Crane Whelan 1878 in Birkenhead.She was born 1854 in Birkenhead.
James(gardener)Born 30 Jan 1856 Ellingstring Bap.23 Mar 1856.he married Elizabeth Haw 9 Jun 1877 in St.Michael's Well.She was born 1854 in Snape(dau.of Thomas Haw-farmer)She died 1930 in 52,Fountayne Street,York.James died 27 Nov 1920 Snape(causes of death-myocardial disease and syncope)
Charles.Born 1859 Exelby(father unknown)Changed name to Foxton.
John.Born 1861 Helperby.(no father given)He married Margaret Ann White.He died Dec 1891 in Ripon.Changed name to Foxton Dumville and then Dumville Foxton.
27.John Thomas Born 27 Feb 1878 Snape Died 20 May 1879 Snape.
Mary Ann.Born 21 Apr 1880 in Snape.She married Peter Brown(laboure,chauffeur,electrician)8 June 1891 Wycar Wesleyan Chapel Bedale.(three chidren-Peter,William,Edith)He was born 26 Nov 1878 in Burton-upon-Ure.Died 20 aug 1961 in Northfields Farm,Patrick Brompton(now owned by Dennis Horner)Mary died 17 Dec 1947 in Bedale.(had three children)
Amelia Jane(Aunt Minnie)Born 18 Apr 1883.She married Thomaas Percy Stone(labourer,farmer)14 Nov 1900 Bedale.He was born 10 May 1874 in Hackforth.Amelia died 1944 in Liverton Mines.(she had 9 children-at Stapleton Farm)
James Henry(butcher)Born 18 Feb 1885 in Snape.He married Eva Eliza Potter(dau.of Samuel Potter) 25 Feb 1909 in St.Thomas's York.She was born Aug 28 1884 13,Townend Street York.Died 17 Oct 1967 in Greenbank Road Darlington.James died 14 Dec 1942 in Darlington.
Annie Elizabeth(chemist's shop)Born 15 Dec 1886 in Snape.She married John William Potter(confectioner)25 Feb 1909 in St.Michael's Well.One son-James Frederick Potter-born 3 Aug 1914,York(garage clerk).He was born 4 Jan 1882 in Townend Street York.Annie died 11 Dec 1945 in Fountayne Street.
George Ernest(blacksmith)Born 28 Nov 1888 in Snape.Married Daisy Anna Johnson 23 Aug 1913 in Pocklington.George died 22 jan 1949 in Friarage Hospital Northallerton.
Edith May.Born 24 April 1891 in Snape.Died 25 Sep 1907.
Sarah Ellen Born 10 Oct 1893 in Snape.She
married Gilbert Phillips 1921 in ???.He was born 1889 in Swansea.Sarah died 24 Aug 1961 in Normanby.
Isabel(Housekeeper)Born 15 Aug 1895 in Snape.Died 9 Apr 1965 in 52,Fountayne Street York.
Frederick(shoemaker's apprentice)Born 19 mar 1888 in Snape.Died 6 Feb 1919 in Military Hospital Newport.
28.James Wilfred(store manager).Born 23 Mar 1911 in Greenbank Road Darlington.He married Eva Thompson(dairy,Woolworths,woolshop) 23 Apr 1935 in St.Paul's Darlington.She was born 7 Sep 1910 in West Hartlepool.She died 3 Mar 1989 in Scarborough Hospital.James died 30 Mar 2004 in Scarborough Hospital.They are buried in Woodlands Cemetery.
Harold(warehouse manager)Born 1 June 1913 in Darlington.He married Peggy(Margaret May)Render(Sparks cake shop) in 1937.Had two daughters-Kathleen(solicitor's)born 1943;married David Parker(draughtsman).She died in 1980 at Darlington Hospital.Two children-David and Alison.Alison married Paul Naisbitt(mechanic)-two daughters,Melissa and Lauren.Sheila(Midland Bank)born 1944.She married Ron Hume(accountant)-three sons-Stephen,Martin and Peter(accountants) Harold died 19 Sep 1991 Darlington Hospital.
29.Anthony(Gardener).Born 2 May 1949 Darlington.
SUBSIDIARY FAMILY TREES;STARTING WITH:
A.23.Nathaniel Dumville.
B.23.Martha Dumville.
C.24.Line ending in James Brian
Dumville.
A.Nathaniel's line.He married Mary Wood-25 May 1773 at Prestbury
24.Peter(cork cutter),born 2 Nov 1768 Chelford,died 1834.Manchester.
Isaac(gentleman),born 17 June 1770-Over Peover.Will proved 1852.
William,born 2 Dec 1772-Over Peover.Married Hannah Owen in 1809.She was born in 1792 and died in 1811.William died in 1838.
Thomas,born 4 June 1775-Over Peover.Married Mary Norberry-9 May 1807,in Manchester Cathedral.She was born in 1771.She died in 1845 at Mobberley.
25.John Dumville.Born 18 June.1807-Mobberley.
William,born 11 Nov 1810 Mobberley.Died 1831.Probably the ancestor of LINE C,James Brian's line.
Mary,born 17 April 1814-Mobberley.
26.Mary Ann.Born 1827.Married Thomas David Nelson in 1843.
Sarah,born 1829.
William,born 1832.Married Francis Mackay-1860 in Manchester Cathedral.
Helen,born 1833.
Thomas,born 1836.Died 1838.
Ann,born 1838.
John,born 1843.Married alice Clough in 1865 at Manchester Cathedral.
James,born 1848.Married Mary Hodson,born 1845-1869 at Manchester Cathedral.
Joseph,born 1850 Droylsden.Married Sarah-Gorton,Lancashire.Stepdau.
27.(from James Dumville)
Sarah,born 1880
Hannah,born ???
Arthur born 9 June 1872.Married Margaret Chorlton 23 Jan 1892 at Manchester Cathedral.
William,born Sep 3 1873
Abraham,born 1876.
Mary Ann(Polly),born 1878
28.James,born 1893.Son-Norman.His sons-Peter,Glen and Paul.
Arthur,born 1895
William,born 10 April 1897.Married Ethel Oliver in 1925 at Manchester Cathedral.Died 1930??
2nd.wife-Annie Oliver,born 1902.Married 23 Dec 1933.She died 1990(from whom the line continues)
Abraham
Ada,born 23 June 1905
Elsie,born 13 Oct 1907
Florrie,born 30 July 1911
29.Arthur.Children-Colin,Carol and Pam.
Gordon.Children-Steven,Allan,Ian
Anthony,born 12 June 1943 in Reading(genealogist)Son-Andrew.
B.23.Martha's line:Met Jack Frost.
24.Illeg.son-John.Marrried Sarah Chadband.13 Nov 1808.
25.John II Dumville,born 1820.Married Mary Leather.8 Oct 1850.She was born 1825. 26.Mary Elizabeth Dumville,born 29 Feb 1852,died 1 Feb 1898.She married Johnm Dooley Walkden-7 Feb 1872.He was born 1854,died May 1882
27.Elizabeth Walkden,born 27 Aug 1872,died 21 April 1975.Married R.Royston,19 Dec 1889;he was born 9 Dec 1886,died 9 Nov 1918.
28.Clarise Royston,born 1893,died 1893.
Alan John Royston,born 12 May 1894,died 3 Oct 1959.Married N.Walker,9 Oct 1926.He was born 14 Jan 1903,died 28 Mar 1968.
29.Eric Richard Royston,born 14 July 1895,died 30 Oct 1895.
Leonard Dooley Royston,born 21 Feb 1897,died 21 May 1985.Married V.Kerr-29 April 1920.She died 26 Feb 1971.
30.Vera Francis E.Royston,born 25 May 1898,died 9 April 1918.
Richard R.Royston,born 12 Dec 1889,died 12 Nov 1970.Married M.Mitchell,15 July 1925.She was born 26 June 1904,died 2 Mar 1981.
31.Garnet B.Royston,born 17 Jan 1929,died 26 April 1929.He married Moyra Linda Field-3 Aug 1950;she was born 10 Oct 1931.
32.Rev.Basil Garnet Royston;he was born 2 Aug 1952;now living in California.
C.26.Line ending in James Brian Dumville.
James Dumville(gardener)born 1827 Mobberley-married Mary Ann(laundress)born 1837 Mobberley.
27.John,born 1891 Northern Etchells;died 1967 Northenden.
James(teamsman,nurseryman)born 1893 Northern Etchells,died 1958,
Joseph,born 1898 Stockport;died 1946 Northenden.
Rebecca,died 1938.
Mary Elizabeth,died 1950.
28.James Brian(nurseryman,market gardener)1 stepson,1 dau.
Keith(nurseryman,market gardener)Son-Michael and 1 dau.
Alan John,died 1997.1 dau.and son-Christopher John(div)-1 dau.
THE TWO BROTHERS-KEITH AND JAMES BRIAN RAN A GARDEN CENTRE NEAR MANCHESTER AIRPORT;NOW RUN BY ONE OF THEIR DAUGHTERS-CAROLINE;PRIMROSE COTTAGE NURSERIES.
DUMVILLE DATABASE:CENSUSES,BAPTISMS,CIVIL REGISTRATION.LEGAL RECORDS,WAR RECORDS,TELEPHONE DIRECTORIES,I.G.I.,ANCESTRY.COM.,PRIVATE RESEARCH,
FAMILY ORIGINS NAME SURVEY,MESSAGE BOARDS,SOCIAL SECURITY DEATH INDEX,NATIONAL ARCHIVES,CHESHIRE MARRIAGE INDEXES,CHESHIRE MEMORIAL INSCRIPTIONS,CHESHIRE WILLS,NATIONAL BURIAL INDEX,CANADIAN DUMVILLES,ENGLISH DUMVILLES,CHESHIRE BIRTHS,BAPTISMS,MARRIAGES,DEATHS,BURIALS.U.S.A. DUMVILLES-MOSTLY ON ANCESTRY.COM;BIRTHS,MARRIAGES AND DEATHS(563 RECORDS)ONE WORLD TREE(236 RECORDS)MY FAMILY(111 RECORDS)-THESE INCLUDE SOME ENGLISH RECORDS,DONCASTER DUMVILLES,MANCHESTER MARIAGES.
NOTE:NO PRIVATE ADDRESSES OR TELEPHONE NUMBERS WILL BE GIVEN;ALTHOUGH THIS INFORMATION MAY BE OBTAINABLE ELSEWHERE.
I HAVE DECIDED TO PUBLISH THIS INFORMATION ON THE WEBSITE.ANYONE SEEKING FURTHER INFORMATION TO HELP THEIR FAMILY HISTORY RESEARCH-PLEASE E-MAIL ME AT
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LEGAL RECORDS:FROM THE NATIONAL ARCHIVES-
1918-1919 Dubois Adolphe-Dumville Ernest.
1913-1972 Dumville-Gatley
1855Churchman v.Needham,Woodriffe,Delmohoy,Murrey and Dumvill Middx.
1771 Dumvill v.Burgess
1844 Dumville v.Mathie,Bill and answer
1898 Livesey v.Dumville
Walkden v.Dumville
1 Jan 1896-Dec 31 1897 Manchester,purchase of land for Deansgate Goods Depot,shops at 303 and 305 Deansgate and cottages at 8 and 20 Crown Street,John Middleton Dumville(executor of late Margaret Dumville)
June 4 1742 Paris Waldegrave to Delafaye,Asswssment of two spies-Dumville and O'Connor,report that Spain may attack Britain.
1815.JOHN DUNVILLE ALIAS JOHN DUMVILLE Born Dublin.Seved in 20th.Foot Regiment.Invalid or supernumery invalid,discharged aged 37.Coveing date gives year of discharge.
1900-1913 Duke-Dumville
1914-1920 William Dummett v.George Dumville
1914-1920 Herbert Dumville
20.1.1950 Dumville Street Manchester Location
20.1.1950 Corner of Byrom Street Location Manchester
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